Richard Glanville
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Richard Glanville was my great-great-great-grandfather.
We believe that Richard Glanville was born as Richard Glanvil on 10 March 1811 at Poltimore, Devon, England, his parents being Richard Glanvil and Tamzin Thorne. This is somewhat supported by the fact that Richard Glanville and Margaret Murphy had a daughter called Tamzen, born in NSW in 1849 (V18492523 38A/1849).
We know that Richard was convicted of a felony at Devon Assizes on 24 July 1833, given a 14-year sentence and transported to New South Wales on the Hive which sailed from Portsmouth on 15 January 1834. The ship arrived in Sydney on 11 June 1834. The Hive's master was John H Luscombe and the surgeon was George Fairfowl [1].
Note that there was another Richard Glanville transported to new South Wales in 1838 from Scotland, also for a term of 14 years [2].
We believe that Richard Glanville was born as Richard Glanvil on 10 March 1811 at Poltimore, Devon, England, his parents being Richard Glanvil and Tamzin Thorne. This is somewhat supported by the fact that Richard Glanville and Margaret Murphy had a daughter called Tamzen, born in NSW in 1849 (V18492523 38A/1849).
We know that Richard was convicted of a felony at Devon Assizes on 24 July 1833, given a 14-year sentence and transported to New South Wales on the Hive which sailed from Portsmouth on 15 January 1834. The ship arrived in Sydney on 11 June 1834. The Hive's master was John H Luscombe and the surgeon was George Fairfowl [1].
Note that there was another Richard Glanville transported to new South Wales in 1838 from Scotland, also for a term of 14 years [2].
Marriage
Richard met Margaret Murphy in 1837 in Parramatta when she was living at the Female Factory [3]. Margaret had arrived in Sydney on 9 June 1836. Their daughter, also called Margaret Murphy, was born at Parramatta on 25 November 1837 and was baptised into the Catholic faith on 12 December 1837 [4].
Richard and Margaret were married on 13 May 1844 in the Anglican Church of St Saviour in Goulburn by William Sowerby. They were married by banns with the consent of the Governor as both were still convicts.
Richard was granted a Ticket of Leave between 1842 and 1845 and it appears from church records that he had already obtained this at the time of his marriage. Margaret also applied for a ticket of leave under the name of Margaies Murphy which was probably granted some time after the marriage.
It is interesting to note that Richard applied for permission to marry Margaret and that this was refused on 21 May 1844, eight days after the marriage took place. Margaret also applied for permission to marry and this too was refused on the same date as Richard's application!
Richard and Margaret were married on 13 May 1844 in the Anglican Church of St Saviour in Goulburn by William Sowerby. They were married by banns with the consent of the Governor as both were still convicts.
Richard was granted a Ticket of Leave between 1842 and 1845 and it appears from church records that he had already obtained this at the time of his marriage. Margaret also applied for a ticket of leave under the name of Margaies Murphy which was probably granted some time after the marriage.
It is interesting to note that Richard applied for permission to marry Margaret and that this was refused on 21 May 1844, eight days after the marriage took place. Margaret also applied for permission to marry and this too was refused on the same date as Richard's application!
It is interesting to note that Richard apparently fathered Margaret and then had no more children with her mother until after they were married. I can think of only two explanations for this:
- I'm wrong about Margaret's parentage and Richard was actually not her father. Perhaps her mother had Margaret with another man and only met Richard afterwards so Richard was in fact her daughter's step-father;
- Richard and Margaret were separated for some reason between their daughter's birth in 1837 and their marriage in 1844;
Children
Richard and Margaret had the following children together:
Margaret, born in 1837 (NSW BDM 85/1837 V183785 133)
Richard, born in 1845 (NSW BDM 1750/1845 V18451750 31A)
John, born in 1847 (NSW BDM 1730/1847 V18471730 33A)
Tamzen, born in 1849 (NSW BDM 2523/1849 V18492523 38A)
William, born in 1851 (NSW BDM 2524/1851 V18512524 38A)
Jane, born in 1852 (NSW BDM 1613/1852 V18521613 70)
Margaret, born in 1837 (NSW BDM 85/1837 V183785 133)
Richard, born in 1845 (NSW BDM 1750/1845 V18451750 31A)
John, born in 1847 (NSW BDM 1730/1847 V18471730 33A)
Tamzen, born in 1849 (NSW BDM 2523/1849 V18492523 38A)
William, born in 1851 (NSW BDM 2524/1851 V18512524 38A)
Jane, born in 1852 (NSW BDM 1613/1852 V18521613 70)
Note that no registration district appears in the NSW BDM records because the information comes from church baptism records so, with the exception of Margaret, I do not know where these children were born.
Note also that Margaret died in 1853 at the age of 40 which is why the couple had no further children. Margaret may have died in childbirth, however I have no death certificate so I do not know the cause of her death.
Note also that NSW BDM record the birth in 1840 of another child called Margaret Murphy, also with a mother called Margaret Murphy and also with no father's name recorded (NSW BDM 230/1840 V1840230 145). I thought that the baby born in 1837 may have died and that my Margaret Murphy may, in fact, have been the baby born in 1840 however I can find no death record for a Margaret Murphy between 1837 and 1840 so this seems unlikely. Could it be a mistake?
Note also that Margaret died in 1853 at the age of 40 which is why the couple had no further children. Margaret may have died in childbirth, however I have no death certificate so I do not know the cause of her death.
Note also that NSW BDM record the birth in 1840 of another child called Margaret Murphy, also with a mother called Margaret Murphy and also with no father's name recorded (NSW BDM 230/1840 V1840230 145). I thought that the baby born in 1837 may have died and that my Margaret Murphy may, in fact, have been the baby born in 1840 however I can find no death record for a Margaret Murphy between 1837 and 1840 so this seems unlikely. Could it be a mistake?
Living in NSW
A 1930 map shows 100 acres of land belonging to R Glanville at Native Dog Flat, near Wheeo. This is close to land belonging to Michael Seery.
References:
[1] Email from Jol Colefax, 13/7/2009; https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/glanville/richard/4566
[2] https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/glanville/richard/4566
[3] see also: https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/stories/parramatta-female-factory
[4] Baptism record. Copy on file;
[1] Email from Jol Colefax, 13/7/2009; https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/glanville/richard/4566
[2] https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/glanville/richard/4566
[3] see also: https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/stories/parramatta-female-factory
[4] Baptism record. Copy on file;